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CAA Provisional Statistics Update

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  1. Jerry

    Jerry Moderator Staff Member I've upgraded to support F4A!

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    KLM go head to head with Easyjet and other airlines on AMS on routes all over. I doubt it was because of that. For KLM can they get passengers connecting through AMS without effecting MAN. That's probably what they will be concerned about.
     
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    But an airline can't operate a route solely on transfer passengers, and easyJet would likely have come out on top for P2P travellers.

    With MAN's growing long haul network, KLM are likely to lose passengers at MAN to other carriers (Cathay, Singapore, Hainan, etc). Likewise travelers from the Liverpool area may use those connections over KLM as well, so flying to LPL direct would help to keep those passengers flying with KLM. Certainly operating somewhere between a daily and double daily service to LPL isn't going to harm their operations at MAN any more than other airlines launching direct long haul routes to MAN.
     
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    As I said before Yield, Easyjet will well and truly undercut KLM for P2P and from what
    I was told got their fingers burnt last time.
     
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    Think if you mean the east coast flights they are well used by the rather large petro chemical industries either side of the north Sea, who use the front end of the aircraft a lot.
     
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    Scottie Dog Moderator Staff Member I've upgraded to support F4A!

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    I have had no need to make a moderator comment on this thread previously however there appears to have been a little bit of "non-appropriate" comment creeping in over the last 24 hours.

    Can I please request that politeness is always maintained, as has been the case in the past.

    This forum has a good reputation and I would hate to see it loosing that standard.

    Out of interest I will try and do some research into stats for the Manchester to Amsterdam route during the period in question and see how it might have been effected.

    Many thanks for your understanding of my request for respect between members.
     
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    Scottie Dog Moderator Staff Member I've upgraded to support F4A!

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    Liverpool Statistics - December 2017 (Part 1)

    Two domestic statistic are currently missing from the CAA report for December .

    Belfast City and Jersey
    Total passengers for this route in December were 12,554

    Moving monthly and annual figures - based on CAA statistics

    Monthly passengers - 339,327 +0.2%
    Moving Annual Total - 4,896,603 +2.5%

    Monthly Movements - 2,603 -5.5%
    Moving Annual Movements - 35,442 -7.5%

    Liverpool Statistics -December 2017 (Part 2)

    Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers

    foreign_airport....................total_pax_this_period

    BELFAST INTERNATIONAL......42,303
    DUBLIN...............................31,743
    ISLE OF MAN........................21,426
    AMSTERDAM.........................17,355
    ALICANTE.............................15,349
    GENEVA...............................14,399
    MALAGA...............................12,702
    BARCELONA..........................11,880
    KRAKOW................................8,593
    IRELAND WEST(KNOCK)...........7,849
    CORK.....................................7,355
    WARSAW (MODLIN MASOVIA)...6,339
    ARRECIFE...............................6,325
    BERLIN (SCHONEFELD)............6,290
    FARO.....................................5,888
    MADRID.................................5,745
    PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)...5,525
    CITY OF DERRY (EGLINTON).....5,455
    PRAGUE.................................5,368
    BUCHAREST (OTOPENI)...........5,217
    ROME (FIUMICINO).................4,987
    FUERTEVENTURA....................4,557
    WROCLAW.............................4,249
    GDANSK................................4,026
    NICE.....................................3,856

    CAA statistics for December are provisional.


    Liverpool Statistics - December 2017 (Part 3)

    Top 25 destinations with highest percentage increase.
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    CAA statistics for December are provisional.


    Liverpool Statistics - December 2017 (Part 4)

    Comparison of top 25 destinations - December 2007 versus December 2017

    Destination airport......................Dec-07...........Dec-17
    BELFAST INTERNATIONAL...............30,610............42,303
    AMSTERDAM..................................23,813...........17,355
    DUBLIN.........................................22,956...........31,743
    ALICANTE......................................15,815...........15,349
    PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE)..........15,216.............5,525
    MALAGA........................................14,946...........12,702
    GENEVA........................................13,313...........14,399
    BELFAST CITY (GEORGE BEST)........12,224............TBA
    KRAKOW.......................................11,103.............8,593
    BARCELONA...................................10,990...........11,880
    MADRID........................................10,567.............5,745
    PALMA DE MALLORCA.....................10,554.............2,693
    ROME (CIAMPINO)*.........................8,638...................0
    MURCIA SAN JAVIER........................8,095...................0
    BERLIN (SCHONEFELD)....................7,805.............6,290
    COLOGNE (BONN)...........................7,769...................0
    NICE.............................................7,503..............3,856
    CITY OF DERRY (EGLINTON)............6,898...............5,455
    WARSAW (CHOPIN)**.....................6,627...............3,638
    BASLE MULHOUSE..........................6,522.....................0
    SHANNON......................................6,486.....................0
    CORK............................................6,473...............7,355
    BERGAMO......................................6,208.....................0
    GIRONA.........................................5,817.....................0
    FARO.............................................5,531...............5,888

    * Services to Rome switched from Ciampino to Fiumicino airports - Fiumicino 2017 - 4,987
    ** Services now split between Chopin and Modlin airports - Total 2007 - 6,627/Total 2017 - 9,977

    CAA are statistics for December are provisional.
     

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    Scottie Dog Moderator Staff Member I've upgraded to support F4A!

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    I said that I would have a check of my statistics, which go back to 2005, for Manchester.

    Manchester/Amsterdam (Annual passengers - all airlines)
    2005 - 588,865
    2006 - 607,215
    2007 - 560,891
    2008 - 462,697
    2009 - 470,184
    2010 - 437,279
    2011 - 612,366
    2012 - 669,681
    2013 - 687,620
    2014 - 728,198
    2015 - 853,427
    2016 - 1,013,260
    2017 - 1,041,792

    The Liverpool service operated between 29th March 2009 and 25th March 2012. The statistics would therefore appear to show that, despite suggestions to the contrary, the Liverpool route did possibly undermine the operation out of Manchester.
     
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    yep. 470,000 to 612,000 one hell of an undermine there ,can't believe KLM didn't up sticks to LPL .
     
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    Was that not the dates that all airport were in free fall due to the crash Manchester
    started its drop. Just looked and yes started its huge drop October 2008 and started to recover
    April 2011which ties in perfectly, therefore it was most likely the crash that caused the dip
    not Liverpool but probably also caused KLM to leave Liverpool because yields dropped
    over that period, had KLM hung on for a year or so it might have changed
     
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    Thank you Mullion for adding extra background information. I think we can assume therefore that the combination of events probably caused the demise if the route.
     
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    LJLA handled almost 5m passengers in 2017 and that momentum is being maintained this year with growth in January and February coming in at 2% and 4% respectively. Tony McDonough reports

    Liverpool John Lennon Airport (LJLA) says passengers numbers in the first two months of this year are up by 20,000 on the same period last year – a 3% rise.

    LJLA handled almost 5m passengers in 2017 – its highest figure since 2011 – and that momentum is being maintained into 2018 with growth in January and February coming in at 2% and 4% respectively.

    It is the busiest January and February at the airport since 2010 with new destinations proving popular with travellers.

    Many passengers have been choosing to take advantage of flights to warmer destinations including Alicante in southern Spain and Lanzarote in the Canary Islands, while others have been heading off in search of even more snow with destinations such as Geneva and Salzburg proving popular.

    Growth is expected to continue during the year with six new routes having already been announced from Liverpool for 2018 with Blue Air to operate new flights to Palma and Malaga, easyJet to serve Pula, Dalaman and Palermo and Ryanair to fly to Shannon.

    Paul Winfield, director of aviation development for LJLA, said: “2018 is already proving to be another good year for the Airport with encouraging passenger numbers using Liverpool.

    “The airport has seen 70,000 more passengers use Liverpool than in February three years ago.”
     
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    Has the airport given a projection for the year-end 2018 figure?
     
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    Not that I've seen sorry.
     
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    CAA figures for Feb show a 4 % rise with average load factors of 85%. 42% of routes are carrying more than 90% load factors. I noticed a big increase on Alicante showing 33 % increase. Blue Air's Bergamo and Rome have increased also which is pleasing to see.
     
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    Growth in passenger numbers continued at Liverpool John Lennon Airport (LJLA) during March as passenger numbers rose by 7% compared to March 2017.

    Over 390,000 passengers travelled through the Airport last month contributing to a first quarter increase in business of over 4% compared to last year. Well over 1 million passengers chose to use the Airport during the first three months of this year - over 45,000 more than in 2017 and the highest first quarter since 2011.

    A combination of additional new services now operating from Liverpool and higher passenger loads on existing well established routes has helped to boost passenger numbers.

    Growth is expected to continue during the year with seven new routes having already been announced from Liverpool for 2018 with Blue Air to operate new flights to Palma and Malaga, easyJet to serve Pula, Dalaman and Palermo and Ryanair to fly to Shannon and Paphos.

    Paul Winfield, Director of Aviation Development for LJLA commented, “The increased choice of destinations and flights now available from Liverpool plus the completion of our various terminal improvement works is continuing to pay off for the Airport and the companies based here.

    Passengers appreciate our faster, easier, friendlier approach to the beginning of their journey, be they traveling for leisure or on business and we expect to see further growth in numbers as more new routes begin throughout the year.”

    Liverpool Airport
     
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