I sit corrected. For some reason I thought they were leave (although why would they be?). I will blame sleep deprivation.. little one has been unsettled past few nights.
 
The media has wasted no time on declaring that UK aviation is in peril, today saying EasyJet will move its HQ out of the UK. In reality, they change the registered address to a different pile of bricks for a tax dodge.

What they fail to report is that EasyJet are launching 9 new UK routes!

That Cathay Pacific are coming back to Gatwick.

That Boeing commercial are having a new European Sales office still in the UK.

That SriLankan are axing flights to Germany & France but not the UK ... because they are too lucrative!

That the UK sees over 30 Airbus A380 movements a day!

That TUI's German boss has said he doesn't expect that the Brexit will impact the TUI UK operation too much as it is a Global Player.

Even Willie Walsh has said IAG and BA will still make a profit and the market will recover and little will change.

On the subject of BA, look at its returns and status versus Air France, KLM, Lufthansa, Brussels Airlines, Alitallia... hell SAS nearly went under 3 years ago, Cyprus has lost its national airline, Olympic a shadow of what it was. So much for stronger in Europe together.

I voted to remain but I do think this scaremongering since the result is pitiful, its pretty much business as usual. We are an island, we need these air links, the market is huge and people love coming to the UK too.

We need to have a little faith!

Ryanair are keeping an extra frame at Leeds this winter with a new route, extra capacity... Jet2 have more NYC trips than ever, they are buying 30 brand new planes and taking on lots of new crew... Business is booming with our main legacy carriers KLM and BA taking out good loads and bringing back good loads.

The most damage will be to leisure due to the security climate, a 40% drop in numbers to Turkey - you will have noted that the 733 has done some Turkey rotations for Jet2 this season. The attack in Istanbul the other day will further damage the market. I would not be surprised to see capacity cut on Turkey and in turn an increase for Greece and the Canaries.
 
It is really difficult to judge what the current state of play is, whether that be the UK aviation industry or the wider economy post Brexit. As predicted by the remain camp project fear has now become reality. The banks are already preparing for the worst case scenario. We are already in recession as people reign in spending as we go into the unknown.
 
As US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in his 1933 inaugural address at the time of the greatest depression of the last century: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”

That's always the problem in times of major uncertainty in the world. Markets, institutions, governments and ordinary people (understandably so in this case because we rely on our so-called 'leaders' for guidance) always default to the worst possible scenario which history shows rarely occurs.

The world got over the Great Depression as it will the UK leaving the EU, assuming that the UK does leave. Anyone who gave any thought to the matter, whether they voted to Remain or Leave, would have understood that a period of instability would follow and perhaps last for two or three years at the minimum. But as with the referendum campaign itself (on both sides) the key words are still, 'if', 'might', 'perhaps'. It's back to that fear of fear being the catalyst of the doom and gloom.
 
Very interesting article regards LBA appeared on the Anna Aero website last week.

http://www.anna.aero/2016/07/29/leeds-bradford-to-gain-links-to-four-european-capitals/

Leeds Bradford to gain links to four European capitals in W16/17; traffic up 26% since 2010; on track for 3.6 million passengers in 2016

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Ryanair recently announced that it will launch routes from Leeds Bradford to two European capitals for the start of W16/17, Bratislava and Vilnius, both of which will be flown twice-weekly. As well as the capitals of Slovakia and Lithuania, Leeds Bradford will gain connections to the capitals of Poland and Germany, with Ryanair launching Warsaw Modlin on 30 October, while Jet2.com will commence a twice-weekly service to Berlin Schönefeld on 25 November for the Christmas period, with it returning on 7 March for a full summer season, again at a twice-weekly frequency.

The government district of the City of Leeds has a population of 774,060 based on mid-2015 statistics by the UK’s Office for National Statistics, while Bradford has a population of 531,176. With these figures, the City of Leeds’ population is the second largest in the UK after Birmingham, while Bradford is fifth, ahead of Manchester (all based on government district boundaries). Based on the UK’s 2011 census, the population of Yorkshire and the Humber combined was 5.3 million, an increase of 6% when compared to the 4.9 million of 2001.

Based on 2015’s UK airport passenger statistics, Leeds Bradford ranks as the 15th largest (3.44 million), ahead ofAberdeen (3.43 million) but behind Liverpool (4.29 million). Of the 254 million passengers to fly from the UK last year, 1.4% chose Leeds Bradford as their airport of choice. To put this into perspective, nearly 30% flew from London Heathrow. Looking at the year-on-year comparison between 2015 and 2014 passenger statistics, Leeds Bradford was the UK’s 17th fastest growing airport, with traffic up 5.6% when compared to 2014. The UK average for 2015 was 2.8% – based on the 37 UK airports with 100,000+ passengers (overall UK traffic was up 5.5%). This means that Leeds Bradford grew faster than some of the nation’s larger airports including: Manchester (5.2% growth; UK’s third largest airport); Birmingham(5.1%; seventh); Heathrow (2.2%; first); Newcastle (1.0%; tenth) and East Midlands (-1.3%; eleventh). However, it is Leeds Bradford’s nearest rival Doncaster Sheffield that witnessed the best growth of any UK airport, with traffic up over 18% in 2015. Although in percentage terms Doncaster Sheffield grew faster than Leeds Bradford, the latter still welcomed 50,000 more additional passengers in 2015 than its Yorkshire counterpart.

Traffic up 26% since the turn of decade

During 2010, Leeds Bradford welcomed 2.7 million passengers. Last year the Yorkshire airport welcomed over 3.4 million, representing an increase of 26% during the time period analysed. Looking at the 64-month period analysed between January 2010 and April this year, 15 of those months witnessed a decrease in traffic (highlighted in light green), with last November being the last month to witness a slump, with passenger traffic down 3.3%. Only four of the 15 months where traffic went down witnessed double-digit drops: October 2011 (10.3%); November 2011 (10.3%); January 2012 (12.5%) and March 2014 (10.3%). On the other hand, 14 months noticed double-digit growth, with the time period from May 13 – November 13 seeing every month witnessing this feat.

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Source: UK CAA Statistics 2016.

For the first third of 2016, traffic at Leeds Bradford is up 5.8% when compared to the first four months of 2015, which in relation to figures is 45,000 additional passengers. If this rate of growth was to continue throughout all of 2016, then Leeds Bradford is on track to hit over 3.6 million passengers in 2016. Entering Leeds Bradford’s monthly passenger data for 2015 into anna.aero’s Seasonal Variation in Demand (SVID) calculator, the airport performs not so well, with it garnering a score of 18.47 – a ‘Poor’ rating. However, this has improved from that of 2013, where it achieved a score of 19.43. The fluctuation in the airport’s seasonality is visually evident in the graph above.

Palma de Mallorca remains number one route

After witnessing an increase in seat capacity of 11%, Palma de Mallorca retains the title of being Leeds Bradford’s number one route. This summer the Spanish airport is served by four carriers from Leeds Bradford, with Jet2.com being the largest airline with nearly 49% of monthly seats, followed by Ryanair (24%), Monarch Airlines (9.3%) and Thomson Airways (17.8%). Jet2.com is the largest carrier on eight of the airport’s top 12 routes, while Ryanair is the second largest on seven of the top 12, with the Irish LCC having the majority of capacity on the airport’s connection to Dublin (74%; fifth largest route).

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Source: OAG Schedules Analyser data August 2016 v August 2015.

Only two of Leeds Bradford’s top 12 routes see a monopoly, that being the British Airways connection to Heathrow (seventh), which has seen capacity grow by 5.1%, while the other is Flybe’s link to Belfast City (eighth), a route which has grown by 25%, helped by the regional airline adding a fifth-daily service in July.



Outside of the top 12, 20 routes have witnessed capacity cuts, with the biggest casualty being Antalya (39th largest route; down 52%). It should be noted however that due to political issues in Turkey, airlines across Europe and indeed the world have scaled back their operations to the nation. Leeds Bradford has also seen reductions to Dalaman (14th; down 33%) andBodrum (40th; 13%). On the other hand, as a result of the drops in capacity to Turkey, other Mediterranean destinations are booming from Leeds Bradford, with routes including Zakinthos (up 63%), Kos (59%), Paphos (46%) and Gran Canaria (35%) all seeing strong gains in seats. Overall seat capacity from Leeds Bradford in S16 is up 6.3% when compared to S15.

Two new destinations gained, however two dropped

During the past 12 months, Leeds Bradford has welcomed two brand new destinations to its route map, namely Corkand Guernsey. Of the 58 non-stop destination served from the airport this summer, Cork is the 51st biggest with Guernsey one place behind. Although the Yorkshire facility has gained these new links, two other destinations have been culled from the departures board, with Dinard (Ryanair operated) in France and Enfidha (Jet2.com and Thomson) in Tunisia no longer seeing direct flights.

More to come for W16/17

For the upcoming winter season, Leeds Bradford will gain connections to four European capitals. Jet2.com will commence a twice-weekly service to Berlin Schönefeld on 25 November for the Christmas period, with it returning on 7 March for a full summer season, again at a twice-weekly frequency. Ryanair will link the Yorkshire airport to Bratislava, Warsaw Modlin and Vilnius. With these new connections, Leeds Bradford will be connected to 12 European capitals by the end of 2016, with Dublin being the largest capital connection.

Jet2.com leads the pack

Increasing its seat capacity from Leeds Bradford by 4.6% during the past year, it is home airline Jet2.com that maintains the number one carrier position at the airport. Looking at the carrier’s S16 programme, it will operate one less route this summer than it did last year, with it dropping its route to Enfidha. The last new route the carrier launched from Leeds Bradford was Kefalonia in June last year.
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Source: OAG Schedules Analyser data August 2016 v August 2015.

Although this summer Leeds Bradford is served by four carriers, it should be noted that in winter season easyJet offers a four times weekly service to Geneva. Two new airlines (highlighted in light green) have been added to the roll call of carriers at the airport this year. Vueling has added flights from Barcelona, while Aurigny commenced operations from Guernsey. Of the existing carriers, three (highlighted in red) have shrunk operations from Leeds Bradford. Flybe has reduced seat capacity by over 21%, despite its growth to Belfast City. This is due to the airline ending its Aberdeen – Leeds Bradford –Southampton – Jersey shuttle service. However the airline will add capacity in winter when it launches flights toNewquay, a route which the airline already offers from Doncaster Sheffield this summer. In relation to growth, Aer Lingus Regional is the best performing carrier, up 139%. This is a result of the airline adding a connection to Cork this summer, a route which Tony Hallwood, Aviation Development Director of the UK airport, celebrated at this year’s CONNECT conference in Vilnius, a city which will link to Leeds Bradford this winter.

As well as new routes mentioned already, Ryanair will add flights to Gran Canaria for W16/17, while it will also add service toGirona for the start of S17. Meanwhile the airport’s largest airline will add routes to Almeria, Girona (competing with Ryanair), Naples (competing with Monarch) and Thessaloniki next summer. While for W16/17, Jet2.com will link Leeds Bradford to Grenoble in France.

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The latest carrier to join Leeds Bradford was Aurigny, which launched flights from Guernsey on 27 May, with the Yorkshire airport heralding its arrival with this fantastic cake. As well as Aurigny, Vueling is a new carrier to the airport’s roll call (launching at the start of S16), with it adding service from Barcelona. Both carriers have helped grow Leeds Bradford Airport’s overall seat capacity for S16 by 6.3%.
 
Retail spend figures out last month showed a huge increase on July 2015, six times greater then the so called economic experts. A 6% increase in tourists spend, 1.8% of this overseas tourists, I wrote on one of the forums at the end of June the massive predictions in tourists to the u.k. with the weakening pound, these widely underestimated the growth.
Not sure what this is doing to inward passengers at LBA, but on some websites the hits in the first month after June's referendum vote from american tourists equalled the number for the last two years in total. Appreciate some of this traffic is a divert from Paris, Instanbul etc.
Still need a direct flight in summer to Geneva, maybe as Mrs May walks in the same areas of Zermatt I do, she may put a good word in for me. Madrid anytime of the year please.
 
Does anyone know when Iberia Express and Vueling release(d) their summer 2017 schedules? Earlier in the thread lbaspotter rumoured IAG expansion which I think with Madrid and a night stopper on Heathrow in addition to anything vueling throws in would be extremely valuable to the airport. The prospect of a year round German destination with a German airline is also one which I'm looking out for. It's these kind of year-round hub/business oriented routes which will make full utilisation of the airport and generate the most stable revenue streams.
 
To be honest Flybe would probably have the best shot at offering short haul business routes such as Hamburg, Berlin, Munich, Copenhagen etc. however it remains to be seen after they cancelled their LBA plans in favour of DSA. I study down in Sheffield and the advertisement campaign is in full force now with adverts placed all over the station there (which strangely don't refer to DSA and merely say "fly local to...") which can't be doing DSA any favours as people choose to get the train direct to MAN. The load factors from DSA don't seem too promising from the figures we've seen so far - especially considering they are operating less economical E195s rather than Q400s. I wonder how likely it would be in the future if Flybe decide DSA is not viable that they open up shop at LBA?
 
The load factors from DSA don't seem too promising from the figures we've seen so far - especially considering they are operating less economical E195s rather than Q400s
That is the problem for DSA in that like the E190's at CWL the planes are too big for the routes and you have wonder if Flybe will stay after the lease is up in 2-3 years time. Same with CWL. As for LBA 1 Q400 based or 1 or 2 operated from BHD each day could cover those routes to Germany which probably would only be operated in the beginning roughly 2 or 3 weekly each. Guessing they would start with Berlin and Munich.
 
It amazes me why FlyBe continue to acquire Q400's when the prop type planes give the impression of being old technology - even though many of them aren't all that old. I can't help thinking that more small jets such as the E170's or CRJ's etc would have given the impression of a more 'go ahead' company and might have tempted more passengers to use their services over the years - and would have been more suited to FlyBe than the E190's. If FlyBe look to tempt passengers on services to mainland Europe in future years from LBA surely an E170 jet service would be more tempting than a giant humming bird in the shape of a Q400?
 
It amazes me why FlyBe continue to acquire Q400's when the prop type planes give the impression of being old technology - even though many of them aren't all that old. I can't help thinking that more small jets such as the E170's or CRJ's etc would have given the impression of a more 'go ahead' company and might have tempted more passengers to use their services over the years - and would have been more suited to FlyBe than the E190's. If FlyBe look to tempt passengers on services to mainland Europe in future years from LBA surely an E170 jet service would be more tempting than a giant humming bird in the shape of a Q400?
For European routes E170's or CRJ's are better suited (apparently KLM chose the Embraer over the Q400 for that reason) but for the British routes the Q400 are much more suited for that task. Eventually Flybe will have 15 E170's and most will be based in BHX and MAN i imagine but i'm sure airports like LBA CWL and DSA will all be after at least 1 to be based at there airport!
 
It's going to be interesting to watch jet2's passengers figures on both the LBA - Dusseldorf and Berlin routes this winter and next Summer seen as both routes are up against Flybe services from Donny and then compare them afterwards.

I think we more likely see an Eastern Airways Embraer 170 based at LBA before we ever see a Flybe open a base or out station aircraft here again

I understand flybe wanted to keep the LBA - Southampton route running but didn't have enough Dash 8's in the fleet to do so, hence the route was axed again. I hear they even went as far as asking another franchise partner to fill in the void.
Now if Flybe ever did want to expand from LBA I wonder if they would rather ask one of there franchise partners (Loganair) to base a couple of aircraft here instead?? Some of you will know where I'm going with this! "come on Jonathan you know you want to"

Vueling i think normally wait until around September/October time to release the following summers flight programme. Iberia Express and Madrid route has been doing the rumour mill for some time now as well. Let's hope something happens.

Also doing the rumour mill is that at least one airline/route announcement has been delayed. I haven't a clue what it is but I'm sure others will be able to fill in the blanks?
 
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Iberia Express would be a good addition, but I would expect Vueling to open a new route before Iberia do?
 
I wonder if Vueling could do a Canaries Island route to LBA? and more airports around the UK.
 

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